All the governments just want to have more power when it comes to economic espionage, diplomatic manipulation and political influence.

And that's not something I'm willing to support, it's not something I'm willing to build and it's not something I'm willing to live under.

We have to call mass surveillance mass surveillance. We can't let governments around the world redefine, and sort of weasel their way out of it by saying this is bulk collection.

When you are subverting the power of government, that's a fundamentally dangerous thing to democracy.

When the United States cannibalize dollars from the defensive business of the NSA, securing our communications, protecting our systems, patching zero-day vulnerabilities, and instead we're giving those dollars to be used for creating new vulnerabilities in our systems so that they can surveil us and other people abroad who use the same systems.

I must say I'm surprised by how skeptical of the [Barack] Obama administration The Nation has been.

These [NSA] programs were never about terrorism: they're about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They're about power.