I mean people just have a way of - y'know they'll review your record in two sentences and put you in this little stupid box that you don't want to be in

So if somebody writes a song that appears to have some meaning then everybody thinks that it's a really heavy song.

There's always that argument to make - that you're in better company historically if people don't understand what you're doing.

Doing battle with themselves that way, every day, all the time and sometimes it sucks, but other times it results in people making sort of a dream comprehensible to someone else.

I'm the wrong kind of person to be really big and famous.

I was trying to do the same thing that I always do which is make an interesting record

I actually don't think that I'm gonna sell a lot of records.