I was trying to do the same thing that I always do which is make an interesting record

Doing battle with themselves that way, every day, all the time and sometimes it sucks, but other times it results in people making sort of a dream comprehensible to someone else.

But I was also doing odd jobs around Portland, like spreading gravel and transplanting bamboo trees.

I'm happy some of the time, and some of the time I'm not. But like when I see a movie, for example, that I really like, that moves me or whatever, it's usually happy and sad at the same time.

Playing things too safe is the most popular way to fail.

People are so... seem so chaotic internally, but being filtered through some form, like making a record, sort of filters it down into something that can be understood.

It's just that a lot of songs that are popular right now, they don't have any meaning