I rode on a float in one of the parades in Mississippi. It's an experience.

I just wanted to move out of Portland to do something.

People can be chaos but it's hard to fit it into some creative piece that you made. It's hard.

I wondered if I would talk about drug use. But I guess, why hide it?

I liked the idea of a self-contained, endless pursuit of perfection. But I have a problem with perfection. I don't think perfection is very artful. But there's something I liked about the image of a skater going in this endless twisted circle that doesn't have any real endpoint. So the object is not to stop or arrive anywhere; it's just to make this thing as beautiful as they can.

I was trying to do the same thing that I always do which is make an interesting record

It was kind of ridiculous to carry it up to a certain point and then drop the ball or the bomb, like quitting the band right after we had signed to Virgin.