Remarkable only the very best arrangers can get a sound like that from four horns

So in the sense that we were all dealing with that freer approach, yes, it was certainly one of the first contacts, perhaps the first contact, when Peter came that summer. So it's a very pivotal moment that is documented there.

Those early steps are very important in understanding the evolution. But in themselves, maybe now you need the later records to understand the significance of the earlier records!

You know, the whole philosophy of ad hoc combinations has its strengths and its weaknesses.

There's an institution here called the National Sound Archive, and there's a character who works there, Paul Wilson. He takes a very special interest in the history of the music and advised Martin Davidson of the existence of these tapes.

Improvisation is a compositional method.

I didn't get where I am today by being timid, young man.