Personally, I think it is possible to build a society that is moral on a nonreligious basis, but the jury is still out on that.
Frans de WaalIf you look at national economies today, for example, the American economy, the European economy, the Indians, the Chinese, we're all tied together. If one of them sinks, the rest are going to sink with them and if one floats, the rest are lifted up. I find that very interesting.
Frans de WaalWe justify the inequalities by saying some people are just better and smarter than others and the strong should survive and the poor can die off.
Frans de Waal