Well, in terms of what a camera does. Again, you go back to that original idea that what you photograph is responsible for how it [the photograph] looks. And it's not plastic, in a way. The problem is unique in photographic terms.

You just go through a certain kind of drudgery every time you have to look for something. I've got certain things grouped by now, but there's a drudgery in finding them. There's always stuff missing.

Cameras intrigued me.

People are going to have a good time, you know. One can go have a good time at these big openings in museums. And people go to have a good time. But the thing has another purpose.In the case of museums, it's always got to do with money, people who donate and things like that. And I believe a certain kind of interest has to be demonstrated.

The camera's dumb, it don't [sic] care who's pushing the button. It doesn't know.

The game, let's say, of trying to state photographic problems is, for me, absolutely fascinating.

There is a transformation, you see, when you just put four edges around it. That changes it. A new world is created.