If somebody had come to me and said will you move heroin, I would have told them no.

Any marijuana transaction I ever did with anyone, there were never any guns involved, ever.

I was the kid who would take the car out at night when he was 16 and see if he can redline it. And then there's the kid who will be careful of it because it's his dad's car, or whatever, and drive it safely home and go to bed. And that's how my whole life was.

Life's a rodeo and all you have to do is stay in the saddle.

After a while, the cocaine - I didn't have any friends. I was just alone and I didn't even like myself.

I thought heroin was evil and morally, myself, I thought that pot was okay. That it wasn't a bad thing and so therefore thought I wasn't doing a bad thing. I knew I was breaking the law but I thought that the law was wrong also. So I morally justified what I was doing.

In fact, I was welcomed. There were movie stars and rock stars. I became a pot star. I glorified in that. And of course as time wore on the business began to expand and grow. It went from more or less a college fun thing to a serious business. As the money grew, the power grew.