But I was also a big mouth, I started to develop a troubled relationship with Harry Shorten.

It was exactly an assembly line. You could look into infinity down these rows of drawing tables.

Precision is not one of the qualities that comes out in my work.

I was hired to do as many Boy Commando, Newsboy Legion, and Sandman stories as I could.

By the end of the 50s, everything began to collapse and, little by little, I lost all of my work. I lost Rex, the Wonder Dog and all the westerns.

But generally speaking, people weren't fired, art jobs were very hard to get, so something really calamitous had to happen to a person who was working there in order for you to find a space.

In other words, DC was never harmed by the paper shortages.