I have a total complex [because of my curls], though, because I got teased a lot as a kid.

I try to be aware of technology and Japanese animation and old Belgian paintings, and get all my references from bits of everywhere.

I used to have more meltdowns backstage than I do [now].... It's not that it was ever cool, but right now, it just seems very uncool to have a meltdown. I'm not saying I'll never have one! But I've learnt to stop it just before it happens.

Fashion was a very insider industry then - it was very closed. So I didn't really know what I wanted to do.

As the older ones, to understand that it is a different time, and young people look at fashion in a different way . . . It's just different. If we harp on about it, they'll feel like we're just old fuddy-duddies, so I just kind of get on with it. I still feel I've got things to say.

I got into hairdressing and moved from Dorset to London, where I got an apprenticeship at Vidal Sassoon. This was around '83 or '84. I was working on South Molton Street, which was then the epicenter of all the shops. It was like a catwalk. So I did my apprenticeship there, but I wasn't successful.

I think to many people, textured curls still signify 'difference.' And kids like to pick on what's different.