Fashion now is just so confusing. It doesn't feel as easy. Fashion seems to be in a much more eclectic place.

I used to get defensive and react. Like you, I get pushed and pulled [backstage].... Sometimes people are rude to me, and I feel like, 'You know, guys, I'm just here trying to do my job....' And the reality is, everyone else is just trying to do their job...and sometimes they get on a power trip [and] you feel disrespected. But that's their problem. It's not my problem.

Fashion was a very insider industry then - it was very closed. So I didn't really know what I wanted to do.

I think it's more funny how every bit of information is up for grabs.

Even though the industry is very big and there's lots of money, when it gets down to it, whether it's a photographer or a designer, as well as a stylist or makeup artist, you're really only working with maybe four or five people on a project. It's all quite small and intimate.

I took Instagram off my phone! I took it off because I found I was looking at it too much.

Suddenly it was cool to have your hair lank . . . It was a whole different way of looking at things, and it shook up the whole industry.