Licensing can be great. You get money for work that's already done. It's not a horrible thing to me, there's just some things I don't want to soundtrack.

I don't hate religion, I try not to hate religion. I hate the terrible things that religion makes people do, and I hate the greed that comes from it.

That's almost the best part, making the record cover.

Licensing can be great. You get money for work that's already done. It's not a horrible thing to me, there's just some things I don't want to soundtrack.

Eventually, I thought that it's interesting to make some rules for yourself while you're working on one project so it sounds different from the other stuff you do.

I'm not trying to cut myself off from the rest of the culture by not licensing.

Sometimes I forget that the label's been around so long that some of the bands they're singing now might be influenced by the first wave of Sub Pop bands. Is there anyone on that label that you look up to or borrow from?