There's just an enormous vast universe of possible intrigue out there and why not pay attention to it? Because then you're not burdened with trying to find that meaning in yourself all the time.

When we use this word fun, it sort of bangs up the ordinary and the extraordinary altogether.

Even when we tell kids to go play, what do the kids do? They come up with a set of constraints and structures. "Oh, we're gonna build a fort out of clothes, and now that we're in the fort we're going to pretend that we're prisoners," or whatever.

If you start the day not really expecting substantial change, but anticipating some small new revelation or some small alteration, then over time you're able to find them in more places.

You don't want to be told, "Hey, do whatever you want." That's what we think of when we think of play. It's the thing where you get to do whatever you come up with in your own mind, all bets are off, there's no boundaries.

If you stop someone who's talking about something being fun, and say "Well what do you mean?" it's almost impossible to answer.

To me, being able to find gratification in more venues, rather than greater gratification in a few, seems like a much more sane way of living.