This desire for equity must not lead to an excess of welfare, where nobody is responsible for anything.

My objective is that before the end of the millennium Europe should have a true federation. The Commission should become a political executive which can define essential common interests... responsible before the European Parliament and before the nation-states represented how you will, by the European Council or by a second chamber of national parliaments.

My problem is how to find the best way of being useful.

Cinema explains American society. It's like a Western, with good guys and bad guys, where the weak don't have a place.

The problem of how we finance the welfare state should not obscure a separate issue: if each person thinks he has an inalienable right to welfare, no matter what happens to the world, that's not equity, it's just creating a society where you can't ask anything of people.

The unions still have a job to do, representing their members' interests to governments and parliaments. And I think collective agreements still have a role, alongside markets and laws.

Therefore one should speak at the same time of national citizenship and wider European citizenship.