Dubai was a property bubble. Plain and simple. Go to Dubai and see what happened. It was... what I call it the 'Edifice complex' - it's just, we can grow by putting up lots and lots of buildings and trying to attract people to come here, stay here, and put up offices here and sooner or later, you put up too many.
James ChanosBubbles are best identified by credit excesses, not valuation excesses. And there's no bigger credit excess than in China.
James ChanosDerivatives in and of themselves are not evil. There's nothing evil about how they're traded, how they're accounted for, and how they're financed, like any other financial instrument, if done properly.
James ChanosI used to think that good short-sellers could be trained like long-focused value investors because it should be the same skill set; youโre tearing into the numbers, youโre valuing the businesses, youโre assigning a consolidated value, and hopefully youโre seeing something the market doesnโt see.But now Iโve learned that thereโs a big difference between a long-focused value investor and a good short-seller. That difference is psychological and I think it falls into the realm of behavioral finance.
James ChanosIncreasingly, the real estate developers can't get bank loans for their project financing in China. They're now going into the Hong Kong market to raise money in the bond market at very, very high rates, as high as 15, 20 percent.
James ChanosIn China, remember, the the banks are arms of state policy. They loan because the local party official or regional party official tells them we need a new stadium. They are instruments of state policy.
James ChanosThe Macau casinos have a wonderful business, it's taking in money from Chinese businessmen elsewhere who send it through junky companies to casinos to gamble. The growth continues and they have basically western managers and western accounting, so we trust the numbers a little bit more.
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