I would argue that there's been a backlash this year [2016]. They [the Kochs] pushed the [Republican] party too far right. The other thing that the backlash is against is the sense that politicians have been bought and sold.
Jane MayerSo you've got these regular, middle-class voters who don't hate the government as much as the Kochs do. They're Republicans, but they still want government programs. They want Social Security, they want Medicare. They need it.
Jane MayerThere's not as much big money on the left, but you've got George Soros, who has the Open Society Institute. He's pushing liberal policies.
Jane MayerWell, yes, I mean, I think that, you know, my sources suggest that thereโs a lot of support for the notion that there is a lot of Koran abuse and that it was very much a systematic design, not just an aberration.
Jane Mayer