One tries to be an observer as an actor and indeed as a director because the small things, the give-away things are what are really interesting to a performer.

You learn from mistakes, but Shakespeare is one big non mistake isn't he? He just got everything right really.

It was but then, when you're, one of the great poisonous events that have infected us all who were in South Africa is that the idea of difference is drip fed into your veins. It's that that you fight.

And I think that that emphasis on keeping a family together, alike, I think it's important.

I mean one of the basic rules when you're acting is that you mustn't stand in judgement on a character, you mustn't say Hitler was a bad man because you can't act in that way.

Now that we have a democracy and you can go back and the airport air is not laden with evil any more, you can actually breathe oxygen when you land in Johannesburg.

So we do have our exits and our entrances and we are perhaps mere, but I think if one keep a certain joyousness in life which should be in playing, then good for one, but it's slightly more serious than that.