Now there is no place you can go where you don't hear certain types of music.

American society has gone completely into denial.

I think part of what has to happen, somewhere, pretty soon, is that a human template has to come up. We have to start with, OK let's throw out all this other stuff, everything we have thought about it before, throw out all our models, and start with a human. What is a human?

There's a need for a ritual and for real joy and real bliss. Real fun.

We're like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.

What we do is as American as lynch mobs. America has always been a complex place.

The thing of being able to share somebody's reality, which has so far been a matter of what communication is about, you know. Now it has gotten a whole new leg. It has gotten a thing of being able to actually step in somebody's reality and walk through it like they do, experience it the way they do, specifically. The implications, to me, are immense. I mean, how far can it go? If you go into a complete, like a cyberspace model of some type, in which... you know the discussion about the mind and the interaction between the mind and the universe as a holographic phenomenon.