I did [Henrik] Ibsen and [Anton] Chekhov for years. Obviously I didn't get the kind of recognition I have now. Somebody once told me, "You ride the horse the direction it's going."

David Ayer was put on my map, at that point, and I always kept note and clocked his career. When he started directing, I saw Harsh Times, I saw Street Kings and I saw End of Watch. I gave my agents a list of directors that I wanted to work with, and at the top of that list was David. I wanted to have that experience.

We've all had those phone conversations. Things are heated, you're in a position where you're gonna say something nasty. Instead, you say, "Oh, I've got that thing in the oven." Lie. Get off the phone. Don't perpetuate a bad situation.

I'd rather be a liar than an asshole.

I screen tested for Training Day many years ago, which was David Ayer's script with Antoine Fuqua directing.

I mean, I feel like I've been pretending I was a werewolf since I was a little kid.

I was kind of a dark kid. I loved Halloween, and I loved vampires and the black and white old monster movies.