It's really hard to fit a complex idea into a 3-minute pop song. And when you're dealing with issues that you're passionate about, usually they have various levels. And within a poem, you can get around the issue of space, and in a song the same way, by simply leaving holes and alluding to what you're talking about.

I’m really only responsible to make sure that one person is clapping at the end of my life. Because I feel like as a performer, a lot of times you live for everyone else’s applause. That’s a dangerous thing within the church or outside the church.

Usually for me, the melodic structures come out in the water and the lyrical ideas could come from a book I'm reading.

I feel like that's something the church has done really badly is actually confessing. We are sinners. We are broken, shattered people that do things selfishly, out of arrogance, pride, lust, greed. And all have fallen short. That doesn't mean some we're definitely a part of that inclusive all.

Our world spins upside down and sometimes we have to lose our grip on the things we value in this life in order to grab on to true life.

There’s nothing that you can sell me that can make me happy.

Maybe truth is not something that I can possess. Maybe truth is something which possesses me.