I see myself as an explorer more than a storyteller.

The whole tradition of cinema is dominated, really, by films about good guys versus bad guys, good versus evil. But we have very few films about the nature of evil itself.

In Indonesian, the word isn't translating as "gangster." It's "preman", which comes from the Dutch "préman", which of course the thing that's "freeman" in English.

I always have said, you know it's not for me to forgive or to condemn, I'm a filmmaker.

I see myself as an explorer more than a storyteller.

Each and every perpetrator was boastful, usually they would invite me to the places where they killed and I would of course accept those invitations because I could document what happened that way.

The killers have built the society. The whole Indonesia is their platform. They run the country. They run the country.