But certainly I didn't know he was doing anything that was criminal.

We see ourselves as first helping to open up markets to competition.

I mean, our primary businesses in wholesale pipelines, utilities, retail, were all doing extremely well.

I have to take responsibility for anything that happened within its businesses.

The problems in California have been that it's been very difficult to site and build new power plants.

Well, rates would go up whether you deregulate or not, and of course, the rates that are going up right now on the electricity side are still within the regulated framework.

Jeff knew full well what he was walking away from. Again, he needed to deal with this right away.