But certainly I didn't know he was doing anything that was criminal.

Today, there are also buyers and sellers of all these energy commodities, just like there are buyers and sellers of food commodities and many other commodities.

Trillions of dollars every day are being exchanged around the world in all of the financial markets.

Am I a fool? I don't think I'm a fool. But I think I sure was fooled.

We use competitive markets to arrange for delivery of our food supply.

The last thing I would have ever expected to happen to me in my life would be that, in fact, I would be accused of doing something wrong and maybe even something criminal.

I mean, our primary businesses in wholesale pipelines, utilities, retail, were all doing extremely well.