I think there is an element of nihilism about, but I don't think most artists feel their work is meaningless.

People like me, who care about printing, constitute the tiniest lunatic fringe in the nation.

I think it has other roots, has to do, in part, with a general anxiety in contemporary life... nuclear bombs, inequality of possibility and chance, inequality of goods allotted to us, a kind of general racist, unjust attitude that is pervasive.

There is, however, a change going on in the world. There's far more interest in drawing now than there has been in a long, long time. Schools are beginning to teach drawing again in a serious and meaningful way.

Of course, I did lots of what would be called graphic design now, what used to be called commercial art.

The art schools... you get young kids doing the most vile and meaningless crap. I think they believe every bit of it.

Art is man's distinctly human way of fighting death.