I think the leaders inevitably express the people they are leading.

But I think doctors have always been either honest or dishonest.

There is, however, a change going on in the world. There's far more interest in drawing now than there has been in a long, long time. Schools are beginning to teach drawing again in a serious and meaningful way.

I think there is an element of nihilism about, but I don't think most artists feel their work is meaningless.

Of course, I did lots of what would be called graphic design now, what used to be called commercial art.

The art schools... you get young kids doing the most vile and meaningless crap. I think they believe every bit of it.

I think if you touch ordinary people, they're simply ordinary people, the way they've always been. They work hard, they don't have really as much as they should.