I think if you touch ordinary people, they're simply ordinary people, the way they've always been. They work hard, they don't have really as much as they should.

Of course, I did lots of what would be called graphic design now, what used to be called commercial art.

Art is man's distinctly human way of fighting death.

I think there is an element of nihilism about, but I don't think most artists feel their work is meaningless.

Works of art produced in the contemporary world are a further expression of that. But I don't think there is an active, ongoing nihilist self-consciousness in the artist.

Pop art is the inedible raised to the unspeakable.

There is, however, a change going on in the world. There's far more interest in drawing now than there has been in a long, long time. Schools are beginning to teach drawing again in a serious and meaningful way.