I think if you touch ordinary people, they're simply ordinary people, the way they've always been. They work hard, they don't have really as much as they should.

Works of art produced in the contemporary world are a further expression of that. But I don't think there is an active, ongoing nihilist self-consciousness in the artist.

But I think doctors have always been either honest or dishonest.

There is, however, a change going on in the world. There's far more interest in drawing now than there has been in a long, long time. Schools are beginning to teach drawing again in a serious and meaningful way.

People like me, who care about printing, constitute the tiniest lunatic fringe in the nation.

I think the leaders inevitably express the people they are leading.

Pop art is the inedible raised to the unspeakable.