You would think that anyone on a major label would be doing something, but when you speak of major label that means something to maybe a big pop star that might be getting some sort of benefit from the major. But we still don't get anything.

We're just beginning to learn the importance of music in our society.

Jazz groups have to make a living any way.

Music is very important. It's important as a tool for learning, it can be a tool for healing, it can be no telling what, as long as we remain free to be able to create the music, to be able to experiment and to really research, and to really get time to develop the music.

I always tell my students when you're going to be a jazz musician the first thing you've got to do is be a professional musician, and that means you have to feed yourself with the instrument.

Because people really got tired, too, of the same old formatted sort of thing, and the same old formatted music.

A lot of jazz is like that; it sells over a period of time.