Art is a great means of self-discovery. One of the things that appealed to me in the beginning was that it was a great way to get girlfriends.

You can looking at that glass of water, not as a glass of water, but as paint on a two-dimensional surface. It's not just a question of looking, but of doing, in relation to this, in relation to that, in relation to the space between things.

Art is a great means of self-discovery. One of the things that appealed to me in the beginning was that it was a great way to get girlfriends.

The idea of the self interests me a great deal. What is the self? And finding yourself, and which self? In a way, we're more than one self, but you somehow try to get to a rock bottom self.

Make friends with your unconscious life. That's a great source of energy.

I've done a lot of bad things in the past, and that troubles me. It is often before I could say I was a self.

The voice of painterly integrity spoke to me. And the idea was that one would find this anguish, or whatever, and construct it into images that would appear. You already feel very ill and you're trying to put this riddle together because it is the prescription for health. I believe in art as a spiritual health-giving process, not just some style.