I just wanted to be an athlete.

Nobody cared about swimming. You could draw a crowd for basketball.

I was always the last one chosen for football games in Central Park.

I've caught fish as big as I am. I've caught marlin close to 300 pounds.

Our coach was absolutely out of his head. He must have read Bear Bryant's book. We had 78 players out. The first day 35 quit. Twenty quit the second day. We ended with 17 players. It was depressing.

You can take the best team and the worst team and line them up and you would find very little physical difference. You would find an emotional difference. The wining team has a dedication. It will have a core group of veteran players who set the standards. They will not accept defeat.

I can ski out of my back door.