Sometimes people can get shitty, but you won't last in music industry by taking things personally.

I think you can move to everything, but with some music you just want to sit still. Like Claude Debussy - I couldn't dance to that.

Sometimes people can get shitty, but you won't last in music industry by taking things personally.

All of my friends are really good dancers, which was initially why I never danced - we'd go out and they would kill it and I'd be like, "Yeah, I'm just gonna sit at the bar." I broke my foot, and I couldn't run for a year, but I realized I could kind of dance. It reminded me how amazing dance is; it's so in tune with music - it is music. It's a physical expression of whatever music is. On stage, you're interacting with things - physical things. So I've really started to like and notice the way people move with music.

I've done a bunch of collaborations where it goes well and you finish it, but then you're kind of like, "I just don't like it." And it sits there. It can be awkward, but a real musician understands that you're not always going to make what you want it to be. You can't just polish everything into perfection.

I think it's really important to not talk about how you're going to release something until you've finished it. People are like, "What are we going to make? What are we going to do with it?" and it's just like, "I don't know, we're just making music. Then we'll talk." You can't always write something you're happy with; you can't force it.

I can't afford back up vocalists; they're so expensive. Because I'm independent - I'm not signed to a major label, which a lot of people don't know, and it doesn't matter anyway. I can't just have an eight-piece band touring. One day - definitely. That's like a goal.