And here in Los Angeles, once again, I'm going to go down and be a witness. There's a guilty plea. I don't mind being on the witness stand, but I think they mind it a lot.

I became as much of a believer as I was capable of becoming.

There is - you know, there's receipts for rented cars and license plates and guns and hand prints and palm prints and fingerprints. You know, I want to wait until I'm in a court.

My daughters have grown up knowing all about my kidnapping and the case and what happened.

And you probably remember all of those papers and documents that they had published in the newspapers. And, you know, when you look at that, it really was their own little jihad that they had going. It just wasn't taken very seriously then.

Through my mind, is just the horror of these people. I had been held by them, I knew how violent they were.

You have to go hunting to know the excitement of seeing someone get their first deer. It's a thrill for them. It is.