Even to me, as I was trying to tell the government what had happened, it just didn't seem to matter.

I think Charles Manson was a hair's breath away from just being a terrorist. He wanted to start a war, too.

People who've never gone hunting have a tendency to look down on hunters and act like they're out killing Bambi's father.

I became as much of a believer as I was capable of becoming.

And you probably remember all of those papers and documents that they had published in the newspapers. And, you know, when you look at that, it really was their own little jihad that they had going. It just wasn't taken very seriously then.

I mean, Emily Harris was his wife.And she seemed to resent his leadership, but on the other hand, she felt like a good soldier, that he had to be the leader.

My daughters have grown up knowing all about my kidnapping and the case and what happened.