You have to go hunting to know the excitement of seeing someone get their first deer. It's a thrill for them. It is.

Well, you know, it's really been, you know, quite a trip for me.

And, you know, like I said, I'm not looking forward to a trial.

I mean, Emily Harris was his wife.And she seemed to resent his leadership, but on the other hand, she felt like a good soldier, that he had to be the leader.

I mean, they call it Stockholm Syndrome and post traumatic stress disorder. And, you know, I had no free will. I had virtually no free will until I was separated from them for about two weeks.

You know, my daughters have been through their entire lives and knowing about my case.

People who've never gone hunting have a tendency to look down on hunters and act like they're out killing Bambi's father.