I mean, they call it Stockholm Syndrome and post traumatic stress disorder. And, you know, I had no free will. I had virtually no free will until I was separated from them for about two weeks.

You have to go hunting to know the excitement of seeing someone get their first deer. It's a thrill for them. It is.

Well, you know, it's really been, you know, quite a trip for me.

I mean, Emily Harris was his wife.And she seemed to resent his leadership, but on the other hand, she felt like a good soldier, that he had to be the leader.

For me, my awakening came when I was kidnapped.

I'm a coward, I didn't want to die.

I became as much of a believer as I was capable of becoming.