Sometimes it’s more a matter of collaboration which matters in a collection.

When it's only clothes, that is not satisfying enough for me. I don't think I could do this for 10, 20 years if that was all. It also has to be about a psychology or a mentality or a concept.

The Dior heritage is so broad. It has a strong presence in the work. So, when people have to define it quickly, it's, like, the Bar jacket and the movement and the luxury and the Belle Époque and so much more.

My whole life, I've always had to be surrounded by creative things. I find it relaxing to be in touch with creations by other people.

Well, my own men's collection always felt very free back in the days before Jil. Once you make it this kind of dialogue with other people, with a fashion show and clients and whatever, it becomes something else. Free meets not so free.

I would prefer to use the word free. I think the Dior thing is so much freer. There was not so much free about Jil's way of working.

I’m very attracted to things that I can’t define.