And style, by the way, is a very important thing. It is like your signature, your handwriting or it is something that you develop that is your way of presenting yourself and also your way of looking at what art - of how to make art.

I was a filmmaker. I made movies. I made films. And I always took photos and made films, always from the beginning.

I was also a good writer, by the way. My, you know, my English teacher and writing teacher loved my writing. You know, I wrote short stories and things like that. And they liked them very much.

The space between things is important to me. The projections, that darkness between the words or the images is very important.

I always took photographs. I photographed a lot of trees, by the way, which is another image I used often in my work, the tree image.

And after a while, you just pare things down more and more and more, until you get to certain basic things which just - basic ideas which just seem to work for you over and over again.

I always thought there was a - even in the most, quote, "conceptual art," there is always a physical aspect to it. I never knew what the term meant.