After I did the drawings of trees combining them with words, I started doing - I did that for a very short time. Then it kind of - that sort of evolved into just showing the branches of a tree coming down into the trunk and then going into the root system. So I showed both the branches and the roots of a tree, which were about equal. There is as much going on under the ground as is going on above the ground, which you can see.

I was never that big a rock-and-roll, rock guy. I really preferred jazz, you know, that kind of thing.

Teaching I realized took up a lot of my time. I was a kind of a teacher that spent time with students, spoke to them after class, tried to help them out. I'd talk with them personally about their work and try to get out of them what they were thinking about, forcing them to thinking seriously and not just falling back on all the ideas that they had picked up someplace. And so I took my job teaching very seriously and that - as a result, it took up a lot of time.

So I never had trouble getting work or working or doing - I always worked. I worked when I went to college. I worked after school.

I was a filmmaker. I made movies. I made films. And I always took photos and made films, always from the beginning.

If you want to know about what's good in art, you should talk to an artist.

I know where the mistakes are. Nothing is perfect and I understand that.