I like working late at night and then going into the house and sitting down and watching a movie and then going to sleep.

I always had a fairly decent income, coming in just from the art.

And we live in a kind of realm of language and words and so forth. So we can sort of relate to them. They don't exist without us. We create words.

And when you see artists like Donald Judd and so forth being referred to as conceptual, what the hell does that mean? It's a totally meaningless term.

You can't make somebody care about what you're doing. Either they get it, either there's that connection - or they don't.

I like the work hanging free in the frame. I don't like too much frame around it but I like a little breathing space around the piece.

The Vogels were quite strict in what they acquired. They never acquired a projection. They never acquired a sound piece. They were never big on photos that much, unless it was photos documenting something. They had some limitations into what they bought.