I took art courses, only in the sense that I was able to - I took art classes, which were fun, which I liked, but it was a - just a kind of a general education that I got, a regular academic - academic diploma, but I kind of had the feeling that art was something that I really liked the most but I wasn't really sure that that was it.

You can't make somebody care about what you're doing. Either they get it, either there's that connection - or they don't.

Art was something that I was really interested in, probably more so than writing or anything else.

I liked the idea of the words floating in space and the space behind it moving all the time, ever changing.

Everybody is always satisfied with what I do.

I'm getting more and more into Chinese art and Japanese, some of those scroll paintings are amazing. You follow the change of the seasons. It's really something. These guys were great masters and of course the use of space.

I was never that big a rock-and-roll, rock guy. I really preferred jazz, you know, that kind of thing.