I always took photographs. I photographed a lot of trees, by the way, which is another image I used often in my work, the tree image.

Words are objects of a color and a size and a form and a shape.

By being critical, you also develop your own style of what you like, what direction you want to move.

And when you see artists like Donald Judd and so forth being referred to as conceptual, what the hell does that mean? It's a totally meaningless term.

Teaching I realized took up a lot of my time. I was a kind of a teacher that spent time with students, spoke to them after class, tried to help them out. I'd talk with them personally about their work and try to get out of them what they were thinking about, forcing them to thinking seriously and not just falling back on all the ideas that they had picked up someplace. And so I took my job teaching very seriously and that - as a result, it took up a lot of time.

I was always - I was a movie nut. I lived in the movies, really.

You can't just suddenly change gears and reverse yourself or go to the left or the right because there is no left or right. There's always a certain direction that you're moving in.