Organized perception is what art is all about.

I was at Rutgers University, and that was a center for Fluxus in a way. But it wasn't what I was interested in. All of it had an impact - as did happenings - because I could see that art was changing from expressionism, which I was doing at the time, or thought I was doing. But it wasn't the direction I really wanted to go.

Outside is the world; it's there. Pop Art looks out into the world.

I don't think of form as a kind of architecture. The architecture is the result of the forming. It is the kinesthetic and visual sense of position and wholeness that puts the thing into the realm of art.

I think that most people think painters are kind of ridiculous, you know?

All my art is in some way about other art, even if the other art is cartoons.

My work isn't about form. It's about seeing. I'm excited about seeing things, and I'm interested in the way I think other people see things.