You know, it's people's lives, so as you get a little older, your own life narrative, I guess, invades a little more. It's not like we're traveling in separate buses to each show. It's a labor of love, so we just do it because we like it. Maybe someone's gonna move, or not want to go on a tour for some reason - that could happen, I guess.

A good voice isn't so important. It's more important to sound really unique.

Berlin is just an affordable European city that's supposed to be cool. There's nothing too deep about it.

Obviously songs and musicians mean a lot to people.

I hated it so much as a child. I just didn't like it when punk bands went metal, it really bothered me. It was happening left and right in the 1980s. It started I think with D.C. bands - G.I., Soul Side, they went metal. Right at that time, R.E.M. was coming out, these more kinda feminine bands, and I was more drawn to that than to go metal. And you remember MTV, with the bad metal. But even Metallica, it just wasn't my direction.

There's something in life that's cool, it's relatively cheap, and fun, and populist. Even when it's elitist.

We're probably a couple of freaks who've created their own little universe, are living in our own little world and that's the only place where we can survive.