I did some writing. I was just taking the kids to school. I did a couple things and we did some tours. It was a lot of downtime.

There's something in life that's cool, it's relatively cheap, and fun, and populist. Even when it's elitist.

My wife is a big fan of George Oppen and I got into him. I could have a career like his. It's not an alpha male situation, George Oppen. It's quiet. It's poetry.He just lived a life of an intellectual poet.

But, then again, I wouldn't call myself an indie-rock supporter even if there are some really good bands out there and there will always be some real good new bands.

I don't even think my voice is really good.

Everyone wants to be loved, generally. If you released a record and nobody said anything, if you didn't get any feedback from people you don't know, i.e. the press, you'd be sort of upset. To me, any press is good press.

The lyrics are different from Nick Cave songs and lyrics. His songs are very narrative.