Оur music, it's an acquired taste. It's almost cult, even at our level. It can mean nothing to somebody and it can mean everything to somebody else.

The lyrics are different from Nick Cave songs and lyrics. His songs are very narrative.

If a voice is just too nice, without an edge, it kinda all flows by. You forget it. You don't listen to the lyrics.

Some people, they've had a lot of fun, even if it was dumb fun and a shitty body of work.

You know, the songs that are self-conscious or jerky, they are that way, but the other ones aren't, so that's a good thing. Some of the songs are Beck-jokey, but the others, they have heart in them.

Yeah, on the records, the guitars are made melodic, and I try to make it memorable. There's not much just wanking, to be honest - it's mostly melodic parts. I try not to play too many notes. It's just more instrumental music. It's a totally valid criticism if you don't like that kind of thing. It also is maybe a little anachronistic or unnecessary in a certain way.

I'm not dying for everyone to hear everything we do. Forty minutes every two years is sensible.