I'm not dying for things to say.

When you do a cover it's a way to get attention clicking on something. At the Quiet Music Festival, The Jicks did this Nirvana song, very unrehearsed and not important, but then all the websites were like, "They covered Nirvana!" People like covers of famous people.

I'm not a go-to-the-gym type guy. I've tried before. And I'm not a jogger.

I'm not dying for everyone to hear everything we do. Forty minutes every two years is sensible.

Obviously songs and musicians mean a lot to people.

Besides, going on tour and playing songs and arranging things, going to practice, it's all I know to be productive.

But, then again, I wouldn't call myself an indie-rock supporter even if there are some really good bands out there and there will always be some real good new bands.