When a band means a lot to you, you build the fantasy more than the reality. Always.

Yeah, on the records, the guitars are made melodic, and I try to make it memorable. There's not much just wanking, to be honest - it's mostly melodic parts. I try not to play too many notes. It's just more instrumental music. It's a totally valid criticism if you don't like that kind of thing. It also is maybe a little anachronistic or unnecessary in a certain way.

The lyrics are different from Nick Cave songs and lyrics. His songs are very narrative.

There's always a chance, a goal to make something different and get it right, finally.

If you have no shame, and it’s your goal to get people into bed, how much higher could your success rate possibly be?

Оur music, it's an acquired taste. It's almost cult, even at our level. It can mean nothing to somebody and it can mean everything to somebody else.

We're probably a couple of freaks who've created their own little universe, are living in our own little world and that's the only place where we can survive.