I feel the most natural thing is for music to come that way because it's sort of like poetry. Though I do think with poets that I like, like Charles Olson or Ezra Pound, they were rewriting constantly, until the poem becomes a diamond.But with music I don't really feel that way.

Some people, they've had a lot of fun, even if it was dumb fun and a shitty body of work.

The word "down," is very musical. It just always comes.

Well, yeah, I sang to some songs on the radio or in the shower.

It's sort of irritating now - people always ask me, "You're a dad, and how's fatherhood?" If Bob Dylan or Neil Young had a kid, it didn't seem like it made them a different person. It didn't make you old right away.

I just imagine that every song in and of itself is great, but when you add them all up, it's too much of me maybe.

My wife is a big fan of George Oppen and I got into him. I could have a career like his. It's not an alpha male situation, George Oppen. It's quiet. It's poetry.He just lived a life of an intellectual poet.