I had no money. I had no savings account.So I would bring down my color TV set, a Sears TV with a cable snaked into it - they had no video-in back in those days - and hooked it up to the circuit of very few chips and then a little keyboard you could type on. And I was trying to impress people with how did he do it with fewer chips than anyone could ever imagine?

He [Steve Jobs] had more of the future vision: We can bring this to everyone; we can start a company; we can sell it.

Rockets are bad technology. iPhones are good technology

If you try to make such projects, unseen by others, as perfect as any human could, you'll develop skills that other professionals don't have.

I saw lots of music devices. I loved playing with music devices. And like most of the world, I thought of a music device as a music device. Steve Jobs tends to look beyond that, and he doesn't see a music device as having any importance at all - how fast it is, how many songs it can hold, and all that - he sees music itself to a person as a being the important thing.

I am also atheist or agnostic (I don't even know the difference). I've never been to church and prefer to think for myself.

I learned not to worry so much about the outcome, but to concentrate on the step I was on and to try to do it as perfectly as I could when I was doing it.