The only self-consciousness in the film [Dream of Life] is anyone's natural shyness.

There are a lot of layers in the film [Dream of Life]. And during editing we would try to tame all the layers, try to make things a little bit more understood. We would move scenes around. We'd try all these things.

We were just hanging out and getting to learn about each other. But I think trust was a really big thing. Patti [Smith] is a good friend, somebody I can talk to.

Patti [Smith] was my experiment, to be honest. And the film is what we got out of it. At the end of the day, I learned a lot about how to make a film.

I didn't do well in high school, but I took photography, and I loved being able to capture moments.

When I went to Detroit, I was very naïve, actually, and I think Patti [Smith] picked up on that quite quickly.

I took pictures of the objects and artifacts that Patti [Smith] would show to her friends because I wanted to document them.