I think the market is always going to be around. The goal is not to say, let's get rid of the market, because the market does render a huge number of services, and I don't want to have a fight about the price of something every time I buy a book or a bottle of water.

Everything has to be done to build some sort of international democracy. We've seen only the tiniest beginnings of that.

The real fight is about what should be in the marketplace and what should not. Should education be a marketable commodity? Should healthcare?

If you cut down a forest, it doesn't matter how many sawmills you have if there are no more trees.

The natural capital is not income, but we spend our natural capital as if it were revenue, as if it were going to come back next year without any problems, whereas these renewals in nature can take hundreds of years.

What it missing, I think, is this notion of the common good.

I think the market is always going to be around. The goal is not to say, let's get rid of the market, because the market does render a huge number of services, and I don't want to have a fight about the price of something every time I buy a book or a bottle of water.