There's people coming in who've never done any politics at all, who've never been in a trade union, they've never been in a political party, they've never done anything, but they do feel a kind of urgency.

How do we get democracy at the international level? That's our problem. and it's essentially the same problem people faced in the 18th Century when they tried to get democracy nationally. Now we need it internationally.

I used to work a lot on food issues and every time somebody predicted that production would be inadequate they got egg on their face a year or two later.

We're trying to run a 21st century society and economy with 19th century Darwinian, competitive, crude ideas.

If we wait for the U.S. to do something, we will be waiting for a very long time. It's Europe, it's Australia, it's the other developed and middle developing countries that have got to do the job.

The World Development Movement, to take just one example, is doing good work. Some political parties are, too.

Now we are flying off into outer space, there is no clear curb on what can be done in the name of the economy.